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Discussion in 'General Entropia Universe Discussion' started by McCormick, Aug 9, 2014.

  1. Jamira

    Jamira Samurai Girl

    What do we learn from it? Polish folks love NEVERDIE? LOL!
    At least they couldn't manage to push up their own Donald Trump.
     
  2. Wistrel

    Wistrel Kick Ass Elf

    Interesting... but how many of those accounts are spam bots?
     
  3. Best example would be the polish forum. :/
     
  4. NotAdmin

    NotAdmin Administrator

    Just to offer some insight on the EP numbers. While I was still actively involved in it, I ran a few clean-up processes to get id of dead wood, and we implemented pretty stringent anti-spam measures. This of course affects the number of users/threads/posts, but we feel our numbers at least are more honest.
     
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  5. In 2017 we can say goodbye to the german community forum. It shut down.

    Our polish friends did their yearly cleanup again. @_@

    Entropiaforum.com is the leader of spam accounts this time...with no cleanup.

    But also Rocktropia and others arent 100% spam safe.
    Also Neverdie kept switching between realityport.com, rocktropia.com, neverdie.com and vice versa, everytime he was in the news, so it looked like a gigantic user increase / instant community, everytime he said something "clever". ;)
    Numbers say more then a thousand words...feel free to judge by yourself.

    All in all comparing these numbers and our registered accounts to other MMOs, over the past 13 years,
    it clearly shows, that MA does (still) not want millions of users, as they (still) cant handle them.

    But the myth is still alive of course.

    data 2017.
     
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  6. Jamira

    Jamira Samurai Girl

    Well
    upload_2017-2-2_21-15-57.
    55.775 minus 2 (I got perma ban by request and sister Kristin became banned as well. We didn't check yet if it's perma too.)
    Nevertheless it still seems like MA does a good job with Calypso ;-)
     
  7. Tass

    Tass Administrator

    Spambots are always an issue. You want to ensure the sign up process is smooth and easy for legit new members, you want to keep bots out, bots 'learn' continuously so you have to adapt counter measures regularly. Currently we are pretty much spam free but mid to late 2016 some spam accounts got in. So our numbers are definitely off too, but EP is quality over quantity anyway.

    So entropia-forum.de is finally gone. I know this was considered several times already. Really sad. So much content, so much work lost again. There are less and less community sites. We are just about to start our next migration project, we certainly could migrate & host e-f.de content too, does anyone have any contact to the guys?
     
  8. Jamira

    Jamira Samurai Girl

    Why would you necromancer it. The game isn't worth it. Simply let it die.
     
  9. Jamira

    Jamira Samurai Girl

    BTW ... did anyone take notice that a wannabe nazi became president of the USA? Seems he will become a necromancer as well. Isolation, nationalizm, racism - werewolfs - LOL!. Well, I agree with him regarding "grab her by the pussy". It should really become part of Convention on Human Rights!
     
  10. Wistrel

    Wistrel Kick Ass Elf

    I've taken it as a sign I should read less news and more books.
     
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  11. Some more forums died and/or are in the progress of dying.
    And once again Neverdie renamed his forum, so all crypto enthusiasts think its a big crypto forum now....blaaahhhh....

    There is no real news on Toulan anyway and the forum is dead.

    There is no real news on Next Island anyway and the forum is dead.

    EFR died in 2016 already.

    Entropia Forum got "stopped" by google security lately and Jason Peterson has no idea why. (ofc not)

    Entropia Poland still has bot issues.

    Enjoy the numbers.

    all data sep 2017.




    data forum 2017.
     
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  12. Jamira

    Jamira Samurai Girl

    Most grow up it seems. But what about the accounts wich are locked? Are they still accounts and count? And well, it doesn't say anything about dead accounts. But assumed the percental amount of dead accounts is nearly the same at each of the subjects it gives a good picture of what happens.
    upload_2017-9-9_20-24-7.
    I love the slow but steady increasing dark green curve ;-)
     

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  13. Wistrel

    Wistrel Kick Ass Elf

    "neverdie whatever" haha :D
     
  14. Coming up next, Entropia merging with Compet. ,-)

    So, let me introduce you to the latest addition, Compet and the Compet Forum (all data included)

    Forum:
    Registration Date : 2014-10-21
    admin created : 6/2016

    Forum Members in 6/16 : 34
    Forum Members in 10/16 : 113
    Forum Members in 10/17 : 461

    New "mods" come and go, or never even make 1 single post.
    Official posts are as rare as...you know...its a silent forum.

    Even before the admin started the forum, Kim Timkrans already announced the merging of EU and Compet in 5/2016.


    all data dec 2017.
     
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  15. And suddenly they say we have more then 3 million users (later called "registered accounts", in the text).

    Since 2011, marketing was on a "all time low" for Entropia Universe and an estimated maximum of 70.000 accounts joined per year. About 190 new accounts per day.
    (SEE graphics in 1st post) You dont need to be a rocket engineer for that calculation.

    Now, a guy named Oliver Oram (CEO of Chainvine, a Blockchain and Cryptocurrency startup) shows up on forbes, acting as hired advisor for MindArk, saying, there are more then 3 million users / registered accounts by now.

    That means, without any huge marketing effort, more then 2 million people joined Entropia since 2011.
    6 years. Keeping the steady 50.000-70.000 per year in mind, we would have roughly reached about 1.500.000 registered accounts by now.

    Instead they say, 333.333 users joined us per year since 2011, or 913 registered accounts per day *lol*, since 2011. While such numbers are totally understated / normal for BIG online games, this feels a bit strange, because never in the history of Entropia, even in its glory days (2006-2008) with tons of PR stunts...there never joined more then 183.000 people per year (2006).

    Even World of Warcraft went from 12 million active users (Lich King, 2010) down to 4 million active users and stopped publishing account numbers since 2015.
    Blizzard did announce 5.6 million accounts at the end of 2015 though.

    So, even if 183.000 users would have joined Entropia per year since 2011, or 500 registered accounts per day, like in the golden times (2006), we would have been roughly at 2 million users by now. Not 3 million.

    So, what exactly happened since 2011, that made so many people think it must be a good idea to create an Entropia account ?
    And where are these 1000 new accounts per day ? Grab your tinfoil hats !

    Just saying...

    Or maybe Entropia will enter the Guinnes Books for the highest retention rate in gaming history soon ?
    Could this be the 2017 xmas PR stunt ? I mean, 3 million people and crypto in 1 phrase...what could probably go wrong ? ;D

    oliver oram chainville. oliver oram chainville2.


    https://www.forbes.com/sites/lawren...ation-of-a-new-world-i-said-yes/#bc7d46118b84
     
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  16. Wistrel

    Wistrel Kick Ass Elf

    Nice rationale. Am I right that 2006 was when CND was slashdotted by Az? That surely had to be when the most accounts were created per day. The orange traffic was so bad (good?) that the client loader web page was effectively DDoS'd so it was hard to log in and MA had to start dropping all the new players at different locations because PA was overloaded. Those really were fun times incidentally. I was really enjoying helping out the all the new people who were totally lost after starting in the wrong place.

    Incidentally Forbes is a respected publication right? Is it worth contacting them with this information? In the interest of journalistic integrity they might want to publish a correction or at least check their figures? (or is such a thing ok if it is merely a quotation of someone else's misinformed figures?).

    Wistrel
     
  17. Wistrel

    Wistrel Kick Ass Elf

    "33 million microtransactions per day" - can blockchain tech even handle this much traffic - I heard it was slow as a goods train?
     
  18. 3 million registered users???

    That must be a MindArk epic lie otherwise why are most towns on Calypso empty most of the time?

    That Oram bloke sounds like a typical advertising/marketing graduate and the way he’s misrepresented EU as some forward thinking, in-demand, financially sound, Internationally respected and tech-savvy gaming company I find nauseating.
     

  19. The problem with "partners" joining MindArk...or getting hired by Mindark...they always sound fully satisfied in the beginning and are convinced, doing something awesome, as they have never heard about Entropia before. Mr. Simmonds does the rest, in terms of...partnering. ;p


    The contributor "Lawrence Wintermeyer", has his own opinion ;) ...and hes also an advisor for startups. "Oliver Nicholas Orams" Chainvine is a startup (founded in 2015)...a startup that advices MindArk in terms of DeepToken now.

    https://pitchbook.com/profiles/company/171686-71

    The forbes post itself is a "guest post", written by Oliver Nicholas Oram himself.

    I already contacted "Lawrence Wintermeyer" as well as "Oliver Nicholas Oram" about these numb3rs.
    Lets wait and SEE.

    chainvine post 2.

    p.s.

    Oliver Nicholas Oram was a speaker at FinTech and Lawrence Wintermeyer was the ex-CEO of "Innovative Finance", the UK non-profit FinTech members association (SEE bio up there):

    http://www.fintechconnectlive.com/speakers/oliver-nicholas-oram/

    https://www.if.foundation/
     
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